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every time boehner an obama get close to a deal, president obama moves the goalpost back. >> kimberly: he is playing hard ball. this is the problem. he is going hmm to you, republicans. i don't care about that. that is nothing. i get that for free. he is the guy changing the play for his side. what about the right? >> juan: the american people. look at the poll, they think president obama is willing to compromise. >> andrea: which is ironic. [ overtalk ] >> juan: who are the obstructionists? it's my ideology, i can't negotiate. even if we go off the cliff, endanger the whole economy. >> greg: here is thing. the idea of adhering to a principle in this world is seen as extremism, trying to limit government and cutting taxes. what obama is able to do is shift the argument from cutting and spending to now spending and borrowing. cutting is part of it. >> eric: leave it there. coming up, the day after christmas. you know what that means? all the bad gifts are going back. tell you what the five of us got from san. the plus, this woman says she was fired from her job for from being too sexy.
every time boehner an obama get close to a deal, president obama moves the goalpost back. >> kimberly: he is playing hard ball. this is the problem. he is going hmm to you, republicans. i don't care about that. that is nothing. i get that for free. he is the guy changing the play for his side. what about the right? >> juan: the american people. look at the poll, they think president obama is willing to compromise. >> andrea: which is ironic. [ overtalk ] >> juan: who are...
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every time boehner an obama get close to a deal, president obama moves the goalpost back. >> kimberly: he is playing hard ball. this is the problem. he is going hmm to you, republicans. i don't care about that. that is nothing. i get that for free. he is the guy changing the play for his side. what about the right? >> juan: the american people. look at the poll, they think president obama is willing to compromise. >> andrea: which is ironic. [ overtalk ] >> juan: who are the obstructionists? it's my ideology, i can't negotiate. even if we go off the cliff, endanger the whole economy. >> greg: here is thing. the idea of adhering to a principle in this world is seen as extremism, trying to limit government and cutting taxes. what obama is able to do is shift the argument from cutting and spending to now spending and borrowing. cutting is part of it. >> eric: leave it there. coming up, the day after christmas. you know what that means? all the bad gifts are going back. tell you what the five of us got from san. the plus, this woman says she was fired from her job for from being too sexy.
every time boehner an obama get close to a deal, president obama moves the goalpost back. >> kimberly: he is playing hard ball. this is the problem. he is going hmm to you, republicans. i don't care about that. that is nothing. i get that for free. he is the guy changing the play for his side. what about the right? >> juan: the american people. look at the poll, they think president obama is willing to compromise. >> andrea: which is ironic. [ overtalk ] >> juan: who are...
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every time bainner and obama gets close to a deal, obama moves the goalpost back. >> because he's playing hardball. he's going, republicans, i don't care about that, i get that for free. he's kind of the guy that came to play and staunch for his side. >> the american people, when you look at the policy, they think it's president obama who is willing to compromise. >> because he's able to fit it in. because he hasn't conceded anything. >> and who are the obstructionists? who is afraid to move? it's my ideology, i can't negotiate. and even if we go off the cliff we endanger the whole economy. >> again, the idea of add hearing to a principle sadly in this world is seen as extremist, which is trying to limit government and cutting taxes. what obama has been able to do is shift the argument from cutting and spending to now spending and borrowing. cutting is even part of it. >> we have to leave it there. coming up, it's the day after christmas. you know what that means? all the bad kids going bad. [laughter] >> let's tell you what the finalist got from santa. and this woman said she was fired f
every time bainner and obama gets close to a deal, obama moves the goalpost back. >> because he's playing hardball. he's going, republicans, i don't care about that, i get that for free. he's kind of the guy that came to play and staunch for his side. >> the american people, when you look at the policy, they think it's president obama who is willing to compromise. >> because he's able to fit it in. because he hasn't conceded anything. >> and who are the obstructionists?...
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i talk to people and they say no deal. >> eric: there is no deal. they are saying no deal. president obama coming back to d.c. to fix what he broke in the first place. two solid years to deal with it. this is a gimmick, the flying back from hawaii to do this. nothing going over the fiscal cliff. let the tax cut expire. come back in, offer the tax cuts for people under 250. call them obama cuts and get it going. if you are in congress. you make $175,000 a year. you get vacation days off. they go back and smoke cigars, eat steak, drink wine and laugh. >> andrea: is there something wrong with eating and drinking? if with pay them to do it. >> eric: they want to hit the buffet line. >> andrea: do it on their own time. not when the country is in a financial crisis. i think obama gets a superhero cape after this. >> andrea: people say republican goes down either way on this. but the house and the senate, this last election by blaming republicans. does he think he will get blamed for this? no. he figures i can do whatever i want. leave the republicans out for dead. >> eric: he is
i talk to people and they say no deal. >> eric: there is no deal. they are saying no deal. president obama coming back to d.c. to fix what he broke in the first place. two solid years to deal with it. this is a gimmick, the flying back from hawaii to do this. nothing going over the fiscal cliff. let the tax cut expire. come back in, offer the tax cuts for people under 250. call them obama cuts and get it going. if you are in congress. you make $175,000 a year. you get vacation days off....
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president obama got back today but no significant progress towards a deal. democrats and republicans are fighting about process and issues. republicans want democrats to come up with a new proposal. house republicans say sign on to their proposal, keeping tax ritz rates where they are. when it comes to this impasse, both sides have taken to blaming one another. >> the house of representatives is operating without the house of representative. it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker. not allowing the vast majority of the house represents to get what they want. if the 250 would be brought up, it would pass overwhelmingly. >> we wanted an agreement. but we had no takers. the phone never rang and so now here we are five days from the new year and we might finally start talking. >> even if democrats and republicans, their leadership and the president, were to strike a deal on the fiscal cliff, it will take a couple days for the senate to work through it, the house to work through it and right now we're only five days out before the billions of dolla
president obama got back today but no significant progress towards a deal. democrats and republicans are fighting about process and issues. republicans want democrats to come up with a new proposal. house republicans say sign on to their proposal, keeping tax ritz rates where they are. when it comes to this impasse, both sides have taken to blaming one another. >> the house of representatives is operating without the house of representative. it's being operated with a dictatorship of the...
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to make one more attempt to work out a deal to overt the so-called fiscal cliff. in unison, his pals in the news media repeated this white house talking point. >> president obama cutting short his vacation in hawaii, heading back now to washington. that will happen tonight to work on the fiscal cliff deal. >> the looming fiscal cliff is forcing president obama to cut short his christmas vacation. >> president obama is cutting short his christmas vacation. he is leaving hawaii tonight so that he can be back in washington when congress reconvenes tomorrow. >> laura: so we should believe that by leaving his island enclave that the president was making some big sacrifice for the country? i'm thinking washington, crossing the delaware on a bitter christmas night 1776 before going on to defeat the british in two major battles, that's sacrifice. i, for one, never understood how in good conscious any of these politicians would think about leaving town with so much riding on this cliff hanger? shouldn't they get their work done before they leave town for a break? that's wh
to make one more attempt to work out a deal to overt the so-called fiscal cliff. in unison, his pals in the news media repeated this white house talking point. >> president obama cutting short his vacation in hawaii, heading back now to washington. that will happen tonight to work on the fiscal cliff deal. >> the looming fiscal cliff is forcing president obama to cut short his christmas vacation. >> president obama is cutting short his christmas vacation. he is leaving hawaii...
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they took themselves out of the story and nothing is a big deal to them when it happens to obama. >>> and two more, general petreas resigning after the scandal. >> the lesson is don't have a hot biographer. again, the petreas element to this is a sideshow but it wasn't a sideshow to the media because the media felt it was at this t. >> and why is anyone paying attention to this creep? it's a scandal he's considered talented. i would not share a hot tub with him, as kimberly said to me before this segment started. >> you know i love the hot tub. >> the problem is he has cache because he rapid anti-american lyrics. once you start talking about america in a negative way, that you gain leverage and respect in the entertainment community. he may act like he's story and maybe he is sorry but this helped him. >> and why did our president shake hands and legitimize him as an entertainer when he talks with killing blank yankees. >> the reason he did it because of the critics. he didn't do it because he thought it was okay to do it, he thought if fox news and everyone thinks it's negative, then
they took themselves out of the story and nothing is a big deal to them when it happens to obama. >>> and two more, general petreas resigning after the scandal. >> the lesson is don't have a hot biographer. again, the petreas element to this is a sideshow but it wasn't a sideshow to the media because the media felt it was at this t. >> and why is anyone paying attention to this creep? it's a scandal he's considered talented. i would not share a hot tub with him, as kimberly...
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president obama cutting short his christmas vacation today to continue trying to hash out a deal with congress. they have until next week to get it done before people will start to feel the pain in their paychecks. that's all of us. molly henneberg with the news now live from washington. molly? >> harris, as you were saying taxes are going up for almost everyone immediately if we go over the fiscal cliff. it likely will take a toll on already stretched family bench. take a look at the numbers from the tax policy center. for those whose taxes do go up this is the average tax hit family also take on top of what they already pay in taxes. below 10,000 they will pay an average of about $300 more. look down the chart a bit. those who make between 40 and 50,000 they will have to pay an extra $1,700 more. looking at the next set of numbers for wage earners, 50 to 75,000. they will have to find an extra $2,300 to send to washington. and if you managed to make over $200,000, if you go over that income mark, it will be a big jump up. you have to send a check to uncle sam for, on average, about
president obama cutting short his christmas vacation today to continue trying to hash out a deal with congress. they have until next week to get it done before people will start to feel the pain in their paychecks. that's all of us. molly henneberg with the news now live from washington. molly? >> harris, as you were saying taxes are going up for almost everyone immediately if we go over the fiscal cliff. it likely will take a toll on already stretched family bench. take a look at the...
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i think they have enormous incentive to deal right now because the poll numbers show that obama's numbers are gaining. democratic numbers are gaining. they're up in the 50s. republicans are down in the 20s and 30s. i think republicans lost the economic debate for now with democrats. i think there is lot of pressure on them to get this deal done soon and then, you know, we will start all over again because there will be a presidential budget in february and we'll be back at the table, negotiating this with the republicans right away. so it is just, should be seen as a little fiscal break or a fiscal, we'll come up with a better analogy but temporary stopgap measure what will then be, we're going to be starting this debate all over again in february. heather: mark, in terms of, you know, who the blame is placed upon and in terms of the public, poll after poll does show that they will blame republicans. is that a matter of messaging from republicans and what can they do, if anything, to change that? what have they done wrong? >> number one of the rasmussen poll today showed 44% would blame r
i think they have enormous incentive to deal right now because the poll numbers show that obama's numbers are gaining. democratic numbers are gaining. they're up in the 50s. republicans are down in the 20s and 30s. i think republicans lost the economic debate for now with democrats. i think there is lot of pressure on them to get this deal done soon and then, you know, we will start all over again because there will be a presidential budget in february and we'll be back at the table,...
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and so whether you're deal -- what you're doing with obama is not just the expiration of the bush tax cuts, but obama tax goes into effect as well. the cap gains rate will go up 58% and this is going to lose revenue rather than gain revenue just as it has in the past. similarly, the tax increase on dividends. if the bush tax cut expires, along with the obamacare tax increase, the tax rate on dividends is going to increase -- actually triple. when bush cut the tax rate on dividends, dividends pay soared and so did the taxes napad on them as a result. if you reverse that tax cut and put the obamacare tax on top, dividends are going to collapse and so are the revenues that government will collect from the dividends. you'll have a similar result as you had in 1990 where they increased rather than declined. >> clayton: do we not learn from our history? this seems like it's just repeating all over again. politicians aren't aware of their history here and what we could go through again. we know what 1991 and 1992 looked like with that recession. it was hard. >> the tax increases we're talkin
and so whether you're deal -- what you're doing with obama is not just the expiration of the bush tax cuts, but obama tax goes into effect as well. the cap gains rate will go up 58% and this is going to lose revenue rather than gain revenue just as it has in the past. similarly, the tax increase on dividends. if the bush tax cut expires, along with the obamacare tax increase, the tax rate on dividends is going to increase -- actually triple. when bush cut the tax rate on dividends, dividends...
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president obama has been in hawaii for some holiday r&r. the republican lawmakers are likely hoping that means he is rested and ready make a deal on the fiscal cliff. however, chief white house correspondent ed henry tells us that washington may have to set with a backup plan to the backup plan. >> christmas tradition for president obama. he and first lady michelle obama saying thanks at the marine corps base hawaii. >> so many of you make sacrifices day in and day out on behalf of the freedom and behalf of the security. >> now the president is giving up some vacation time rushing back to washington aboard air force one late tonight to deal with the looming fiscal cliff. after that red eye, the president will no doubt need coffee. starbucks decided to get political in the washington, d.c., shops, by having employees write come together on cups. ceo howard schultz writing in open letter, "my hope is the simple message will serve as holiday reminder from starbuck of the spirit that bridgeed differences and we have the power to come together a
president obama has been in hawaii for some holiday r&r. the republican lawmakers are likely hoping that means he is rested and ready make a deal on the fiscal cliff. however, chief white house correspondent ed henry tells us that washington may have to set with a backup plan to the backup plan. >> christmas tradition for president obama. he and first lady michelle obama saying thanks at the marine corps base hawaii. >> so many of you make sacrifices day in and day out on behalf...
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to deal with the fiscal cliff issues. air force one touched down a short while ago at andrews air force base in maryland. we're learning now the president has resumed talking with congressional leaders about trying to solve this crisis that lies just a few days ahead. molly henneberg keeping an eye on that live from the white house. molly? >> reporter: hi, jon, yes. president obama spoke to the top republican and the top democrat in both the house and the senate when he was in hawaii before flying back here to washington. still no negotiation sessions have been set, at least not publicly, not formally. the president cut short his vacation, he left his wife and daughters there in hawaii and flew back here to washington to be here at the white house for any last minute meetings on the fiscalcliff. the vice president is scheduled to be here at the white house for meetings as well. over in congress the senate is in session, the first time either the house or senate has been in session for legislative business between christma
to deal with the fiscal cliff issues. air force one touched down a short while ago at andrews air force base in maryland. we're learning now the president has resumed talking with congressional leaders about trying to solve this crisis that lies just a few days ahead. molly henneberg keeping an eye on that live from the white house. molly? >> reporter: hi, jon, yes. president obama spoke to the top republican and the top democrat in both the house and the senate when he was in hawaii...
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a fight that obama should not want to have. it's interesting to me if he doesn't act in the next couple of days with what charles calls a generous deal he gets himself in to really unstable waters, economically. something we have never seen before. then we look at the global waters rattling toward real default, not the january 1 cliff. republicans would be blamed initially but he would be blamed ultimately. >> this argument and is so ethereal with the numbers baptered back and forth they can't grasp it. one component is the farm bill that expires at the end of this lame duck session if it expires and we go to 1949 formula for calculating milk price supports. back in 1949, most cows in the country were milked by hand. what it ostensibly means for you is gallon could cost $6-$8. citizen against government waste says it's cornucopia of wasteful, silly programs that many wish should be allowed to die. the statement goes op and on. what is going to be the fate of the farm bill? >> good question. asnatetive wisconsin, i would like to
a fight that obama should not want to have. it's interesting to me if he doesn't act in the next couple of days with what charles calls a generous deal he gets himself in to really unstable waters, economically. something we have never seen before. then we look at the global waters rattling toward real default, not the january 1 cliff. republicans would be blamed initially but he would be blamed ultimately. >> this argument and is so ethereal with the numbers baptered back and forth they...
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there is little to no progress reported in making a deal to avert across the board tax hikes for 90% of american households. president obama on his way back to washington right now but not all the lawmakers are there and if congress and the president do not reach a compromise before january 1st many analysts say the economy will slide back into a recession. gregg: mike emanuel is live on capitol hill. mike, any indication of the president's next move? >> reporter: well, gregg, last time we heard the president talk about the this matter he said he was calling on congressional leaders to essentially make sure taxes do not go up on middle class americans. presumably that would be a package that continues the bush tax cuts for those making up to $250,000. he would also like to continue emergency unemployment benefits for two million americans. and beyond that, details are kind of murky at this point. so we await the president to get back to washington. we know that the senate will be back in session today. we know there have been some conversations back and forth but at this point no ind
there is little to no progress reported in making a deal to avert across the board tax hikes for 90% of american households. president obama on his way back to washington right now but not all the lawmakers are there and if congress and the president do not reach a compromise before january 1st many analysts say the economy will slide back into a recession. gregg: mike emanuel is live on capitol hill. mike, any indication of the president's next move? >> reporter: well, gregg, last time...
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. >> brand new video of president obama visiting fires one and leaving hawaii with five days until we fall off that fiscal cliff. the president is cutting his vacation short to return to the white house and try to hammer out a deal. but what will actually happen if we do go over the cliff? doug luzader is live for us with the details. >> it is not going to be pretty. on board air force one heading back to washington from a hawaii after cutting christmas short. can a cup of coffee help as far as christmas is concerned. starbucks is hoping. if you go into a starbucks you will get a message written on your coffee that says come together. this is a company trying to tell the president and lawmakers here they need to come up with some kind of agreement before they go over the fiscal cliff at the end of the year. the senate will be meeting today. this is the first time we have seen legislative business conducted in the weeks between christmas and new years since 1970. the house come back as well but nothing yet. the other thing to consider here the two key players in all of this president o
. >> brand new video of president obama visiting fires one and leaving hawaii with five days until we fall off that fiscal cliff. the president is cutting his vacation short to return to the white house and try to hammer out a deal. but what will actually happen if we do go over the cliff? doug luzader is live for us with the details. >> it is not going to be pretty. on board air force one heading back to washington from a hawaii after cutting christmas short. can a cup of coffee...